It appears the apple truly does not fall far for the tree. It is being reported by local Alaskan news and bloggers that the 15 year-old daughter of Sarah Palin was named by other suspects as the "ring-leader" in the break-in of a Wasilla, Alaska home last December.
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Several news reporters are now pursuing this story, but what has been uncovered so far is both disturbing and predictable.
- 31 votes
I can see that this can be looked at as horrible parenting. Sarah Palin's daughter et al.
This could happen to any teenager (regardless of parents). It is sad and the appropriate thing would be to punish the kid (not jail or juve, they are destructive), get some community service plus an apology to the home owner. Maybe some family therapy would also be good (get Sarah off the news for a while if she has to be in therapy sessions twice a week.).
- 16 votes
Several news reporters are now pursuing this story
Really, who are they?
Name them and their news organizations.
- 16 votes
First, family connections will guarantee that Ms. Palin will get a "slap on the wrist."
Second, it's hard to imagine that the daughter would be so incredibly stupid to [allegedly] do something like this, knowing that her mother is in the political crosshairs of both conservatives and liberals.
Third, it's sad that this is going to be political fodder. The children should really be "left out of it." But -- sadly -- "the world isn't fair," which isn't true. The world is quite fair. It's people who make the world unfair.
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It appears the apple truly does not fall far for the tree. It is being reported by local Alaskan news and bloggers that the 15 year-old daughter of Sarah Palin was named by other suspects as the "ring-leader" in the break-in of a Wasilla, Alaska home last December.
. This is despicable beyond belief, disgusting. if the girl did this she sould be punished but there is zero evidence Sarah Palin ever broke int to as house and this slime comment shows the mentaslly, lack thereof, of Kos.
- 17 votes
Redshadow
First, no one ever said Sarah Palin broke into a house.... and it certainly can't be found in the piece you just pasted. Did you mean Willow?
Second, a teen breaking into a house and having a party is one thing; a parent covering the incident up and using their connections to keep the child from being held accountable is quite another. Especially if that parent is someone who has Presidential aspirations and constantly campaigns on a platform of honest, integrity, transparency, and a hatred for 'backroom deals'.
- 41 votes
The children should really be "left out of it."
Will you tell this to Sarah Palin?!!?? She carries that poor Trig (sp) kid all over like he's some fashion accessory.
It's typical hypocrisy to say kids are off limits and then use one like a billboard saying "Hey Look at me, Have respect for me...I've got a special kid".
- 33 votes
Second, it's hard to imagine that the daughter would be so incredibly stupid to [allegedly] do something like this, knowing that her mother is in the political crosshairs of both conservatives and liberals.
Actually, it would be more like ( allegedly ) arrogant and self-centered, which is ( allegedly ) pretty normal for a kid that age, but these would (allegedly ) be made worse by the sense of entitlement mommy and daddy ( allegedly ) cultivate with their ( allegedly ) throwing hush money around and ( allegedly ) pulling strings instead of allowing real consequences.
By the way, the repeated "( allegedly )" is allowing for the possibility that the story could turn out to be hyped up and signifigantly inaccurate by the time all facts come out after more thoroughly reviewed and solidly credible information comes out, but also acknowledging the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the first hint of more insane behavior yet to come from these kids. It is not intended to mock the quoted poster in any way.
- 15 votes
Jumpshot "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"++ The child is like the parent. What the **** does this mean to you? It is a gutter, sewer origin smear with no evidence and despicably suggested, Sarah Palin did the same. Like saying every whore was raised by a whore., What if the smear was the same but named Michelle anbd Maya Obama? Would it be cute then?
- 10 votes
"It is being reported by local Alaskan news ., "
This is an outright lie. I just checked all Alaska papers and not one reports this, yet this smear/news is 2 days old.
- 17 votes
I am not even going to bother checking this out because it is so irrelevant. Why are we allowing NV to be turned into a tabloid?
- 11 votes
If these allegations are indeed true, then I'm not surprised...just disgusted!
- 9 votes
Laf, this is almost as good as the one that Sarah Palin's daughter was the actual mother of Trig.
Keep it up kids, it just adds fuel to the fire.
- 12 votes
Let me know if the daughter runs for office, or murders someone, otherwise, who cares what Palin's kids do?
That isn't news, that's celebrity gossip.
- 8 votes
The rotted fruit doesn't fall far from the rotted tree......................
Is she pregnant again too?
- 14 votes
Maya Obama? Who is that?
Wondering that myself? Who in the hell is Maya Obama?
- 14 votes
Hi Yosho,
I personally hate the term "alleged." However, it must be used to avoid charges of libel in case it turns out she didn't do it. (On the DL, I think Young Miss Palin's as guilty as original sin.)
- 8 votes
My god, if this is true, that family is the gift that keeps on giving. It's like Christmas every day.
If it's true...
- 8 votes
right now the evidence is suspicious.. and looking in the newspapers of the town where this allegedly happened i cant even find letters to the editor about it.. so with all the BS from the right doesn't help who ever spread this.
there might be truth to it but with weak evidence it doesn't matter.
find a police report.
it should be available via a FOIA request.
- 10 votes
I keep seeing the "if it's true" and the "why isn't it being reported" but one small problem. Have any of you checked by using the time frame of when this says it happened and where any teenage boys charged?
I haven't yet but I plan to. This article says she had her hand in it via eyewitness/friends saying she did. If a cover up is taking place the easy place to start checking is the local paper reporting the vandalism an damage. If that part is found to be true then I wouldn't dismiss this one off hand. Now if nothing can be found at all on the local level I'd also check the sources for the comments and look to see if any where retracted after an investigation.
- 5 votes
Oh goody, another example of conservative family values. I wonder who was sent out to buy the home pregnancy test at Wal-Mart?
- 9 votes
The Kos should be ashamed "according to the National Enquirer" now come on guys.
I am no fan of the Palin's but that rag has zero reliability. Even a liberal Democrat like myself wouldn't believe anything that comes off their press.
- 5 votes
a parent covering the incident up and using their connections to keep the child from being held accountable is quite another. Especially if that parent is someone who has Presidential aspirations.
Tell that to George Bush Sr.
- 12 votes
While, I don't know if this is true story or not if your a parent of a child that is friends with a politicians child. Explain to them anything illegal done the politicians child will get a slap on the wrist and all the blame will go on the others involved.
- 7 votes
Wizeguy
They did get it right on the affair so now I give them the benefit of doubt.
Granted the only thing I ever used them for before they broke that story was as a liner for the puppies play pen. It was cheaper than buying wee pads :)
- 2 votes
Daily Kos....hehehe...and then the source that confirms it ...
the National Enquirer? Really? Dang, Kos cites the National Enquirer? And Kos stoops to a new low...
that is absolutely hilarious! hehehehahahahahaha
- 4 votes
@ redshadowwithgreenbackground
Maya Obama is the president's half-sister. You'll need to clarify whatevertheheck you're talking about, if you want anyone to understand your comment.
- 1 vote
The article cites the NATIONAL ENQUIRER as a source. Want to see some other gems from them?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/killer_mom_susan_smith_prison_drug/crime/63532
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/jesse_james_sex_rehab_bullock_mcgee/celebrity/68413
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_mistress_rielle_hunter_kiddie_crisis/celebrity/68411
- 4 votes
So while mommy's Tea Partying nobody is looking after the proper upbringing and welfare of the children. Is this who the Republicans really want to champion as a potential leader of Our Country? She can't even take care of her own household.
- 7 votes
Jumpshot "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"++ The child is like the parent. What the **** does this mean to you?
What it means to me is the implication that both Sarah and Willow seem to display a disregard for the rules.
If you took it to mean that Sarah did EVERYTHING that Willow has reportedly done, then fair enough I guess. That's generally not what that phrase refers to though..... generally it refers to a resemblance. I highly doubt too many educated people take that phrase to mean a 1 to 1 match of exact behaviors between a parent and child; especially considering the enormous difference between adults and children developmentally.
- 3 votes
Say what you will about the Enquirer's tabloid journalism .. but they have only been sued twice. So they must blend just enough truth into their stories that they don't get sued. Or else they make disclosure so uncomfortable that the plaintiff stands down (I.e. Bush's drinking in office).
- 5 votes
This could happen to any teenager (regardless of parents)
Let's see...Sarah Palin's first son was involved with drugs and had to chose between jail or Iraq; Bristol became pregnant at 17; now Willow is breaking an entering and vandalizing.
Great parenting, Sarah! Are these examples of conservative parenting success stories?
- 6 votes
There's a body of rumor surrounding the Palins. Most of it has been hard to prove (like Levi's vandalism arrest in 2005). And while I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, what we have here is one instance after another that alleges Sarah is a bad parent, a bad leader, and a corrupt politician. Opinions are like ... but when everyone in a given community shares the same opinion of someone, I tend to think there's more than just a grain of truth there.
- 4 votes
Here is what this incident is about. It is in a lot of the Alaskan blogs because they claim once again Palin had it covered up. The incident occurred in December 2009
Everyone hears about the party. The on January 13th, according to The Immoral Minority, the homeowner discovers their trashed house and the cops are called. The National Enquirer picks up the story. The Colony Girls are in trouble! Resentment overtakes envy: Finally, the Colony Girls will get their due.
But just like that, the heat is off the Colony Girls. According to The Immoral Minority, a "secret weekend meeting" took place between State Troopers and the Palins. After the meeting, the probation officer decides to charge only the boys engaged in the crime. "The girls would only be identified as 'witnesses' and face no criminal penalties."
Its not about the kid its about the cover up or alleged cover up.
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/03/willow-palin-accused-of-vandalism-of.html
http://gawker.com/5506959/how-small-town-high-school-drama-could-destroy-sarah-palin
The town this allegedly happened in has no newspaper but this is the regional paper's home page.
I myself think this is a personal matter for the kid and would not respond except the cover up issue.
- 5 votes
For a couple of reasons the fact that this story may not have appeared in the Wasilla paper is not proof that it didn't happen.
For one, this is a Palin we're talking' about here. You think Sarah, with her vindictive ways, couldn't put the lean on the local paper or police? Please.
This town is pretty much under Sarah's thumb.
Now none of this means that this story is true, but the fact that it wasn't in the paper doesn't mean it's false either.
However, I did find this in the Mat Su Valley Frontiersman:
Suspended sentence for woman who took child to burglary
BY ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:42 PM AKSTPALMER — A woman who brought her 4-year-old daughter along to burglarize a home for a second time reached the end of her case Friday.
Diana Palin, half-sister of Todd Palin, husband of former Gov. Sarah Palin, received what’s called a “suspended imposition of sentence.” Essentially, if she maintains a clean record as a law-abiding citizen, completes drug treatment and otherwise complies with the court’s orders, she won’t have a felony record.
Palin had already spent five months in jail awaiting sentencing. Her time in Akeela House also counts as time served.
“Although it’s an extremely close call, I believe a suspended imposition of sentence is appropriate,” Superior Court Judge Vanessa White said before addressing Palin directly.
“There is no reason you can’t succeed on this probation. You have everything going for you.”
Palin was arrested in April 2009. Police said at the time that she was caught essentially red-handed. A homeowner who’d already had $400 cash stolen from him two days prior saw her pull into his driveway on Mill Site Circle and hid in a bathroom while she entered his house. The homeowner detained her and called police. At some point Palin’s 4-year-old daughter wandered into the house.
At Friday’s hearing, Assistant District Attorney Paul Roetman said that as investigators started looking at the case, they found that Palin had been doing similar things before in her own neighborhood, sometimes using her daughter as cover. For instance, the girl would ask to use a person’s bathroom, which would give Palin a pretext to get into the house and find prescription medications and other things to steal.
The fruit is indeed getting closer to the tree. Taking your kid to a burglary? Wow.
- 8 votes
There is a much fuller accounting of this story and it's sources at The Immoral Minority:
The Law, the Willow, and the Wicked Witch of Wasilla - A must read
The day after this crime occurred (12/14) Sarah, Todd , Piper and Trig when to Hawaii. (probably hadn't heard of it yet?). A few days later Politico reported that the Palin's cut their vacation short because of the uproar over Sarah being found with a McCain logo blacked out on her sun visor. Cover story?
Maybe.
This does have the smell of a classic Palin cover-up in order to maintain her image.
Hmmmm...
Yet another episode of the Wasilly Chillbillies?
- 7 votes
Hey Sarah, (who loves to throw stones).......is there any kind of view left in that glass house you are living in?!?! Pitiful! Your family is screaming out for your attention. You birthed those babies so take care of them (ain't that the republican way?) and don't let them become more of a menace or hindrance to our society. Your ego and ambitious need for the spotlight should take a backseat.
- 7 votes
Let me get this straight.
IF
Palin's daughter = home burglar
THEN
Obama's socialism = good
Whew. Thanks for setting me on the correct path.
- 3 votes
The article cites the NATIONAL ENQUIRER as a source. Want to see some other gems from them?
Weren't they the publication that broke the Jonathan Edwards story? Yes, they are a rag but how often are they wrong on this kind of stuff? Not the space alien stuff, but the real stories.
- 5 votes
This is one Palin story I would like to see not true. People, are we now wishing and hoping bad things on children? Unless everyone's child has passed this stage in life with a clean slate, best to say, if not for the grace of God...
- 3 votes
Unless everyone's child has passed this stage in life with a clean slate, best to say, if not for the grace of God...
I can say with complete certainty that none of my mom's siblings (2 sisters and a brother), myself and none of my cousins (6 of us have hit adulthood thus far) have been accused of breaking and entering and vandalism.
Palin has 2 kids who have been. That says something.
- 3 votes
Palin has 2 kids who have been. That says something.
Weren't you one of the ones last year that pushed the story that Palin was not the mother of Trig?
I seem to remember during the election that you were one of the main ones pushing all kinds of things that turned out to have zero truth components to them.
What things did you do as a child that you were never caught doing?
- 3 votes
Weren't you one of the ones last year that pushed the story that Palin was not the mother of Trig?
I seem to remember during the election that you were one of the main ones pushing all kinds of things that turned out to have zero truth components to them.
Nope, sorry.
What things did you do as a child that you were never caught doing?
Let's see...I didn't try alcohol until I was 21, never touched a cigarette or tried any drugs, didn't break and enter, didn't have sex, never cheated. I may have jay-walked.
- 4 votes
We all know kids at that age take risks. This is a bit more serious than that. Causing thousands of dollars in damages to a house cannot be ignored. All those kids should be made to clean up and/or pay for the damage they caused.
It's unfortunate that Palin's daughter was one of the ringleaders but I wouldn't blame the mother for that. Yet, I have to wonder why she hasn't cut back on her schedule. Clearly there is a need for parental supervision in that household. It's hard to do that when you're on the road all the time.
What makes it even more odd (ironic?) is that the Christian Right purports to have all the answers for the rest of us as to how we raise our children. I'd say there's some room for maneuver in this case.
- 3 votes
sadly, no, rickeroo. President Obama's not being a socialist has nothing to do with this. The construct rather goes like this:
Let me get this straight.
IF
Palin's daughter = home burglar
THEN
Palin's pontificating about morals = same old, same old Republican hypocrisy
It's not rocket surgery, rickipoo.
- 6 votes
First, family connections will guarantee that Ms. Palin will get a "slap on the wrist."
You mean like Ted after he went for his little swim?
Breaking and entering/vandalism, while they are both a crime, is not as serious as murder.
- 2 votes
I wouldn't jump on it so fast, even though such rumors usually don't come out of nothing. It was almost two years ago that I was convinced that Trig was actually Bristol's kid. Sometimes I still have doubts that Palin's the mother, but then Tripp came along and the math was a bit off.
Either way, I don't need any more proof that the woman is a moron and her parenting can't be all that great, considering how much time it takes her to have her ego stroked constantly in the media. As the single mom of two honor students (16 and 18), I know you can't just say, "Don't have sex!" and then leave for hours and hours....
- 5 votes
It's interesting how the National Enquirer is now not trustworthy when it was good as gold to the right wing when they exposed John Edwards. The Enquirer does sensationalize the details, but frequently they do break the truth. They were also the first with the Monica Lewinski affair.
- 5 votes
Palin is such a great representation of "Mother of the Year". So if she really is Trip's mom then she sure put her high risk pregnancy in jeopardy. Only a fool would make such a trip to the states at her late stage of pregnancy.......go into labor while at the conference....not seek medical attention...get back on the airplane.....fly home. Talk about negligence! Was she hoping for a "natural" demise of this pregnancy? It makes one wonder. If she truly is so "pro-life" she couldn't have been more careless and possibly criminal in her actions towards this pregnancy. She seems to throw her family to the wolves (ironic) when it comes to choosing them over her career.
- 3 votes
Mike Malloy has reported just minutes ago on his radio program that Sarah Palin's son, Track, was also once arrested on vandalism charges.
We are finally getting a closer look into the home of what we suspected was a very uncivilized and dysfunctional group of humans.
- 28 votes
lol..lol..well said uva..uncivilized and dysfunctional group of humans..
lol..lol..well said uva..uncivilized and dysfunctional group of humans..
If the story about the "vandalism" is true, I've heard it involved cutting brake lines to dozens of school buses. If true, that's not "vandalism". It's akin to attempted murder.
- 14 votes
Oh my god. Post a link of the bus lines otherwise just shut up. I don't care anymore about party this or party that. Vandalism is despicable but making up conjecture about others is worse.
- 6 votes
The mindset of people? crowing over rumors because it may involve a child of one of their enemies is beyond belief.
If a slimey right wing blog posted a rumor Obama's daughter was a vandal would this drooling smear fest be tolerated or consigned to the sewer where it belongs? Would you same *****s condemn Obama and his whole family?
- 8 votes
The Palin's are mentally unstable............they'd be kicked out of the average really low class trailer park as a determent to property values..................
- 13 votes
gundy, don't you dare tell me to shut up. You might speak to your mother like that, but you aren't going to speak to me like that.
- 10 votes
That's old news he went into the service to avoid the issue it was reported. This came out on the time the oldest daughter was breaking the pregnant story.
Sex drugs and alcohol are prevalent up North. Alaska is a wonderful place to visit but staying there leave much to be desired. I had a friend who moved there with his wife. He fished for a living on the west coast. He bought a small island up there and built a home on it. They spent 10 years up there sold out and left. He is still suffering from reoccurring depression. His wife is gone his boat is gone and the life he once treasured if his enemy now. All because he went North to Alaska
- 4 votes
gundy, don't you dare tell me to shut up. You might speak to your mother like that, but you aren't going to speak to me like that
I will speak to you how I would like. My post wasn't even a personal attack however your post is an attack on me. My post is collapsed yet yours is not. Cruel fate I suppose.
If the story about the "vandalism" is true, I've heard it involved cutting brake lines to dozens of school buses. If true, that's not "vandalism". It's akin to attempted murder.
I've heard? That is what you are going off of? I am just so tired of this conjecture bull-spit. What makes it worse is that you continually, and I mean CONTINUALLY, call other people out for doing the EXACT SAME THING. There is no evidence and NO IT WOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED MURDER. I don't care if it is the pope, a Palin kid, or Obama, this kind of crap has got to stop. You don't just level a claim saying "attempted murder" unless you have evidence.
It is called slander and is illegal.
Post a link or shut up. What is done is done. What needs to be said, needs to be said.
- 3 votes
gundy,
Bonos included "If the story...is true" before stating it was something he heard, then stated his opinion of whether such an act should be considered vandalism. It was presented as a suppositional and not with the "must be true becaause it's from the internet" or "I have my sources who I can't name for their safety but you need to accept it as Gospel Truth" that a lot of people here tend to pull. It also would not be slander because it's not presented as an accusation, but, once again, as a suppositional.
So maybe your "shut up" and accusations of slander etc aren't attacks, but they do seem to fit indicators of anger management issues combined with reading comprehension issues, or someone who thinks deliberately twisting others' words and telling them to "shut up" based on that intentional misrepresentation is a socially-acceptable form of intimidation as long as observers agree with your misrepresentation of the other guy's words.
Of course, that's just my impression and it could be something else motivating your insulting and harsh tone to bonos' comments. Either way, you didn't make a positive impression here and bonos is getting votes from me for the very relevant indication that you had to learn this somewhere and the teacher should "enjoy" the fruits of their work teaching you.
- 2 votes
It also would not be slander because it's not presented as an accusation, but, once again, as a suppositional.
He is doing the same thing that Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh and others do.
Of course, that's just my impression and it could be something else motivating your insulting and harsh tone to bonos' comments.
What, you are defending an unsubstantiated claim?
Bonos included "If the story...is true" before stating it was something he heard, then stated his opinion of whether such an act should be considered vandalism.
If the story about the "vandalism" is true, I've heard it involved cutting brake lines to dozens of school buses. If true, that's not "vandalism". It's akin to attempted murder.
Want to tell me which part of it is opinion? There is no framing of an opinion. There is no, "I think such and such."
before stating it was something he heard
Damn right. He heard it somewhere. Where did he/she hear it?
So maybe your "shut up" and accusations of slander etc aren't attacks, but they do seem to fit indicators of anger management issues combined with reading comprehension issues, or someone who thinks deliberately twisting others' words and telling them to "shut up" based on that intentional misrepresentation is a socially-acceptable form of intimidation as long as observers agree with your misrepresentation of the other guy's words.
What misrepresentation? No, I am tired of this. The exact problem I have is with the statement, "I've heard". That means it is no longer opinion. Do you understand? There is no twisting. As soon as someone says "I heard" they are no longer expressing ones own viewpoint. They are taking evidence from SOMEWHERE and using it.
Do you agree with the above sentiment?
No, it doesn't matter that "If the story is true..." because if it IS true people will think it involved the disabling of brakes. Right? Logical fallacy.
If this, then that. He states from some source that IF THE STORY IS TRUE, then it is dealing with the buses. You can surely see where my juxtaposition is coming from.
So if tomorrow, the next day, or the next day, this story was in fact deemed true some "other" blogger could use the same logic. "I heard it was about disabling brakes on a bus". Where did you here about that?
My vehement opposition to the post was for a simple reason that it was false as well as hypocritical.
I don't even care that much about the "akin to murder line" even though it is the most sensationalist part of the post.
You can also see, I told bonos to post a link to the bus lines or shut up. I gave an ultimatum. Clearly I wasn't telling him/her to "shut up" because I disagreed with them. But I was telling them to shut up because they were espousing logical fallacy.
intentional misrepresentation is a socially-acceptable form of intimidation as long as observers agree with your misrepresentation of the other guy's words.
Perhaps you should go back and read both posts then tell me who is using misrepresentation. Observers clearly DON'T agree with me as they do with bonos (look at the comment votes). All I am trying to do is save those poor souls from being fed misinformation.
So in summary, when someone says "If" this, then "that" you are assuming "that" is true when the "if" part becomes true. If a kin of Palin did in fact vandalize something, then people will assume that is was a string of buses or what have you.
I hope I have explained enough for you to get a vantage point into my view, which is the correct one, as I am not espousing opinion.
P.S.
Either way, you didn't make a positive impression here and bonos is getting votes from me for the very relevant indication that you had to learn this somewhere and the teacher should "enjoy" the fruits of their work teaching you.
If you agree with someone presenting a false image so long as it is "positive" and disagree with someone who presents a "true" image just because it is negative, what does that tell you about your gullibility factor? So if anyone says anything in a positive light (I don't believe bonos's post was all that positive actually) you will agree?
My post wasn't even angry in nature. Back up ones claim or shut up.
- 1 vote
According to sources close to the Alaska State troopers there was a secret weekend meeting. This meeting took place between the Palin’s and some very highly placed people involved in the juvenile justice department.
If the reports out so far are accurate, it appears Sarah Palin directed what could could only be called a "cover-up" ... insisting that law enforcement authorities charge only the boys involved.
I guess some of the boys' parents though otherwise.
- 23 votes
Directing a cover-up is known as obstruction of justice and is illegal.
- 12 votes
Is it really that unusual for the parents of a child suspected in a crime to meet with police? I thought that was SOP.
- 3 votes
Is it really that unusual for the parents of a child suspected in a crime to meet with police? I thought that was SOP.
Shhh, they are on a roll. Next thing you know they will tell us about the secret Nazi plan to bomb Pearl Harbor.
- 6 votes
Is it really that unusual for the parents of a child suspected in a crime to meet with police? I thought that was SOP.
That's not SOP, that's GOP
- 4 votes
Next there will be alien encounters with the Palins. This is all a crock. Just hateful people posting.
- 1 vote
I don't see how Palin can sit on this story. She tried to do it in concealing the pregnancy of the older daughter, but this one will push her stock to "junk".
- 13 votes
Sometimes kids do stupid stuff. I've taught at prestigious schools, where even the kids of the (sic) "best" breeding got into monumental trouble. Unfortunately, the children learned nothing because the parents were often able to hush everything up, pay off the right people, politically threaten those who wouldn't "play ball," and then sweep everything under the rug.
The best way that Ms. Palin could possibly spin this is to allow her daughter to take responsibility for her actions, pay the damages, claim that kids sometimes do stupid things, and then state that she will be spending more time with her daughter to give her the attention that she so desperately craves.
However, Ms. Palin would have to overcome her inability to admit that she -- or anyone connected to her -- is capable and/or guilty of committing any wrongdoing. It's against her nature.
- 11 votes
"state that she will be spending more time with her daughter to give her the attention that she so desperately craves."
LOL! She spends NO time with her special needs baby. He needs more attention and care than all four of her others put together. What makes anyone think that if he means so little to her, that she'll spend any time with the older ones?
- 10 votes
Hi bonos_rama.
I'm not defending her. I'm actually really curious to see how Ms. Malfunction is going to respond to this.
- 6 votes
She's more likely to blame it on "left wing radicals" trying to discredit her......
- 13 votes
She's more likely to blame it on "left wing radicals" trying to discredit her......
I admit it! I am a radical left wing plant who has taken control of the Palin crime family just to discredit them.........................they paid me off...........with............with.........Willow!!!!
- 6 votes
AL 616, sorry if that came off like I was criticizing YOU. I wasn't. I meant that as a general statement! I just feel that if Palin won't even be bothered to care for her special needs child, no way is she going to bother with any of the others.
- 2 votes
Willow is 15 years old. This absoultely reflects on the parenting she has received.
Palin's reality is whatever Palin wants it to be. As long as Palin can go on Fox and spout family values Palin will feel pure and righteous.
Usually SP amuses me, but sometimes she just scares the heck out of me. She can be as whack as she wants, and I wouldn't care... if only no one believed her. THAT'S what is so scary.
- 5 votes
"Willow has been running with the wrong crowd," confides a friend. "They are a popular high school clique known as the Colony Girls, who are well known as hard partiers and are regularly involved in underage drinking and smoking dope."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/15/the-trials-and-tribulatio_n_424741.html
- 14 votes
IF, IF the reports are accurate, this may well be Palingate. We may finally be rid of her. Lets wait and see how this plays out before we start jumping. I don't think, the right wing will even flinch at this point though.
- 11 votes
I doubt this would knock Palin out politically, hypocrisy is a family value for GOPpers.
I hope it doesn't knock her out, she's the best Dem punching bag there is.
Run Sarah, Run!
- 5 votes
Why would you want to get rid of her politically? She is the darling of the Republican party and a potential nominee as their candidate for President in 2012. I would love for this stupid, arrogant B*^TH to run against Obama and get her ass handed to her.
- 3 votes
Kids do get into trouble. What I find disturbing is that the parents tried to cover it up rather than making the kids face the music. That is not good parenting. Willow needs some time in juvenile hall, some community service and contribute to paying for the damages caused by that party.
Never been a fan of Palin or McCain. I voted for Obama but he is a disaster. There just do not seem to be any decent honest and patriotic leaders out there anymore. That is a sad testimony for our country when we cannot even find someone fit to be President.
- 4 votes
This story a year ago would have drove Sarah Palins stock into the ground even with the lunatic fringe.
- 9 votes
I'm sorry that her kids are having "issues".
I voted for Obama and am still glad I did. Talk about disaster. It would have been a disaster to have McCain and Palin. OMG.
- 10 votes
Maybe you need to take a look at what you want out of a politician because the majority of people in the Us think Obama is doing just fine and is as far from being a disaster as bush was from bein perfect.
- 3 votes
I think Obama is doing a reasonable job but then again I wasn't expecting any miracles. The country won't be perfect when he leaves office; it never will be.
- 2 votes
Carolyn, that was my reaction exactly.
It wasn't surprising at all that Sarah and Todd would cover it up. It is a little surprising they thought it might stay under wraps.
- 9 votes
How is it surprising that Republican corruption is also not very bright? They've actually convinced themselves that they're Dog's personal agents on Earth so think they can do as they please. They're entitled
- 2 votes
kids do get into trouble, what bothers me the most is the "cover up" and their complete hypocricy. how dare they be indignant and judgemental? i am so sick of these people who believe themselves to be the most moral, yet they lie cheat. steal and hurt other people; and are obviously teaching their children to do the same thing.
- 14 votes
From the accounts, it appears Willow is either on The Pill, or is soon to join big sis as a teenaged mother.
- 15 votes
i honestly feel bad for them. i can't imagine having to go through this with my children or grandchildren. thus far, no big trouble for any of them yet.
- 7 votes
Colorado - I am soooo hip!! Let alone raising them under a microscope!
That said, if this is true and only the boys are being charged and the girls are now "witnesses" I'b be raising holy hell if I were one of these boys' mothers.
- 5 votes
It's natural and proper for the parents to want to help their children: I'd do it for mine. And there are ways to do it in the system. Restitution should have been offered immediately. And then all the students who were under 18 should have been able to bargain for 6-12 months probation, with a dismissal of all charges afterwards (assuming they complied with probation requirements.) But throwing the boys under the bus and covering up for the daughter, nah. That's not proper. And it's not farsighted. It doesn't help Willow recover from her mistakes.
(P.S. Are we sure this whole story is not an April Fool's joke?)
- 1 vote
What you posted here is not a valid article. Seems to be some bits and snips with no reference links by some anonymous dude on DailyKos website.
- 4 votes
Hold on ... the information is developing ... just like the Bristol Palin pregnancy story ... it started just like this ...
- 13 votes
is not a valid article. Seems to be some bits and snips with no reference links by some anonymous dude
OK let me add one more blogged article. It seems to me this is like a story fox would do get a sniff of a story, then somebody rolls in boxes of stories, and then one informed person puts out the story though unlike fox they won't spin it.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2010/03/law-willow-and-wicked-witch-of-wasilla.html
- 6 votes
No Alaska paper is carrying this, only loonie left wing smear blogs. Why, after 23 days. This is much like the smear saying Palin called Obama a racist name. It spread like aids over the leftwingnut smear blogs yet even 2 years later no evidence has supported it.
- 6 votes
nlike fox they won't spin it.
Says the man with "wicked witch of wasilla" in his link...just stop and think before you say "Except they won't spin it like Fox..." They'll spin it in your favor?
- 2 votes
They'll spin it in your favor?
Sorry I prefer the truth not spin unlike some on the vine! Dont worry I will be watching to see if it is true or not as a blog is the most unreliabe news source but even the national enquirer has been the first to report a true story.
Palin hate is like aids. It affects the brain, if any.
I don't hate Palin I just see her for what she represents.....if any
- 5 votes
Just a bunch of bull s__t. So pitiful to think that others actually believe this rediculous 'story'.
- 1 vote
It sounds like Willow is trying to tell her mom to stay home more. Palin has bascially abandon her girls by going around the world. Todd is to busy being outdoors and racing and hunting and when you let other kids and the wrong kids do the raising of your kids, things like this happen.
Peer pressure too is a hard thing on a young kid. I'm sure the others of this group put a lot of pressure on Williow. I remember when I was about the same age and a bunch of us would go to this tire place that was placed on a hill at the end of our street. Well what we used to do was get all of the tires at about 12 midnight and roll the tires down the hill, no matter what could have happen. It was some of the stupidest and wrong things that I have ever did. Not only someone could have gotten hurt but the work that the employees of the tire place had to do picking and haul the tire back to the business. We would do that just about every Friday. I do admit that we never got caught. We were lucky.
- 10 votes
I don't know that Sarah at home is better than Sarah gone.
- 12 votes
Here you have hit upon the essence of the problem - UVA! There is a vacancy of spirit WHERE EVER the insipid Mrs. Palin hangs her hat. I expect nothing more from this creature who remains nothing but an ersatz human being DESPERATE for attention. I told my kids we won't be watching Cake Boss anymore once her show airs. Our house will soon be undergoing a radical PALINECTOMY!.
- 8 votes
From the blog The Immoral minority link 10.2:
By the way, there are a couple of very interesting coincidences in this story. For one thing do any of you remember where Todd, Sarah, Piper, and Trig were headed to on December 14th, the day after this discovery?
Yep you are right! They were on their way to Hawaii!
- 3 votes
Nice... A story begun in AlaskaWTF by a writer named Dirk Diggler gets tapped into by a writer at the Daily KoS who learns from some anonymous sources that a house was broken into in Wasilla by ringleader Willow Palin and this is all probably true because Palin's son track was reportedly an oxycontin addict, a story that was sprung by the national enquirer prior to his going into the military. okkkk....
You guys are REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel now!!! Please reseed this story when it shows up in something resembling an actual news article...
- 3 votes
To this point, the reporting certainly is a little sketchy. I'm sure if there's any truth to this, it'll be plastered all over by lunch tomorrow.
Of course, if this is true, then Palin's in up to her ears..... again.
We shall see.
- 4 votes
You guys are REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel now!!!
Todd and Sarah Palin ARE the bottom of the barrel...................
- 9 votes
They remind me of "balloon boy's" parents except the Heenes watched their kids closer and they are not anywhere near as opportunistic.
- 5 votes
To this point, the reporting certainly is a little sketchy. I'm sure if there's any truth to this, it'll be plastered all over by lunch tomorrow.
Just remember the news about Palin's daughter being pregnant broke in this very same way.
She had been pregnant for months before anyone knew about it ... including John McCain.
My only desire is to have this story come out, one way or the other.
But these is smoke, and possibly fire.
- 8 votes
So? Big woo. She isn't the first, and won't be the last, so stop behaving as though its the story of the century. Electing a socialist as your president has that honor.
- 1 vote
Obambam must really be getting desperate to pay acorn to pay you "reporters" to publish this dung. Oh well, I guess we all have to make a living somehow. sad. so very sad.
- 1 vote
Of course the fair and balance network will report this.....H3ll must be freezing over right about........................................................................... now.
- 2 votes
"Obambam must really be getting desperate"
Uh, no, desperate is John McCain having Sarah Palin campaigning with him so he can hold on to his senate seat.
- 4 votes
Well I guess that not everyone in Alaska like or love the Palins
- 6 votes
This article quoted the National Enquirer... as entertaining as this story would be if it were true, I'm hesitant to believe it until corroborated by more reliable sources.
- 4 votes
Actually, the Enquirer is a step above the other tabloid rags. When they break a story, they stick behind it. We all went back and forth over this when it was alleged by the Enquirer that John Edwards was seen leaving a hotel in a visit with his mistress.
- 7 votes
It doesn't make it reliable, and it still makes it a Tabloid whose main intention is celebrity gossip, not fulfilling the public's right to know.
Besides, what does it say about us that just because we may dislike (even hate) Sara Palin, we are reveling in hte potential failures of her children?
- 2 votes
There is virtually nothing , as in zero, from legitimate news sources verifying this story.
Come back when you have some facts.
- 3 votes
yeah, right.... perception is reality with some.
I just read your caption there, UNA, "Seeing is Believing" ...that goes right along with what I just said...perfect.
- 1 vote
You holier than thou religious right conservatives make me laugh, I think the story is true, bad parenting always shows up like this. I feel sorry for the young girl Willow, having a mother and father like she does; it's no wonder she's seeking attention. Wake up neo-cons and admit that your choice for VP was a big mistake. Sarah Palin is a wanna be celebrity and is starting to implode. On another note, I just signed a petition for Discovery to cancel her show, I hope it fails big time. She (the divine Sarah) does not deserve any more of our time. Just go away.
- 8 votes
Not a single major news organization has anything on this story. That IN ITSELF puts the credibility at zero, until proven otherwise. Sarah Palin is one of the most famous people in America today. If her daughter were accused of such actions every network and wire service would be all over it.
- 4 votes
but...but...but.... the National Enquirer said it was so, John.
- 1 vote
Yet I bet Vol was all over the Edwards story in the Enquirer.
- 3 votes
Peterb10, so, her kid isn't perfect---is yours? Is anyone's? Personally, I believe you should not accept as truth something which hasn't been proved; the left will latch onto anything immediately, which they feel will make someone on the right appear in a bad light, but maybe you should polish up the tarnish on your own halo before attempting to work on anyone else's. We happen to like Sarah Palin, regardless of how her kids may behave; if you're a parent, you should know that, at some point, kids are going to do what they are going to do, in spite of how good or how bad a parent you are. That's reality. it has nothing to do with politics or parenting, it has to do with ones own choice, plus peer pressure to show how brave you are to your peers. If I had done anything like that as a kid, my bottom end wouldn't have been able to sit for a long while, but, in today's world, everyone wants to "understand" the kid's little Psyche; my parents understood mine very well, and they had the cure for anything that might be wrong with it! Stop being so judgemental, and start cleaning up your own backyard. Even if you aren't a parent, I'm sure you have a few bugs in your life, unless you are able to walk on water. This isn't about a kid's immature choice, and we all know it, its about trying to nail Sarah Palin to the wall, but you'll need a bigger nail and a stronger hammer than this petty stuff.
Well I guess I've been told! And you have no business thinking that I don't understand and this is petty? I admire your guts for trusting this woman and following the rest sheep herd. She is not worthy of listening to unless, you are brainwashed which I think you are the way you dish out the right wing rhetoric. Thanks anyway, I at least have a brain and think for myself.
Good for you! Glad you can think for yourself. Most of us do. I am far from brainwashed, and have never been known to accept someone else's opinions unless I agree with them. You like Obama, so you think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread, ok, we accept that, but you are not able, it seems to accept that some of us like Sarah Palin, and that liking her does not make us stupid or without thinking brains, or brainwashed, anymore than you are for your choice---its a simple matter of what one believes in. You can't argue with feelings, its pointless, feelings are what they are, right or wrong. I, personally, do not hate the president, nor do I wish anyone any harm, I simply do not agree with the direction in which he is headed with his plans for America, as many, including some Democrats, don't. It isn't just the right that is upset, many on the left have begun to say, "Wait a minute, this isn't the type change we envisioned." However it all works out, there will, always be some who are unhappy, and some who are happy; you can't please everyone. Its really too bad we can't all respect each other as Americans and, while we may never agree on every issue, we should try to put that aside to work toward a common goal of keeping our country free as it was intended to be. When I called the home break in "petty", I meant in comparison to worse crimes. No, it was not right in any sense of the word, not to mention dangerous, as some home owners would shoot first, then check out the details, and if this young lady was actually involved, then, certainly, there should definitely be some sort of reprecussion, and punishment, but lets not hang her before we know the whole story. I'm not excusing her, only saying get the real facts before coming to a conclusion. And I didn't mean to imply that you are not in control of your own personal situations (we all have them), just that it isn't easy being a parent even when kids are well behaved, but when they follow the leader of their peers, its even more difficult, if the leader is not leading in the proper direction; it was claimed, that she was the ring leader. Maybe, maybe not, and maybe it was a group of kids who just wanted to make trouble for her; it happens. So, I'll wait to hear if there is more evidence before forming an opinion, and will not judge, that is not my place to do so. Peace to you & yours.
- 1 vote
It is a fallacy that the National Enquirer has low fact checking standards. Actually, their fact checking is spot on. I do not see Van Flea suing the National Enquirer on Palin's behalf.
I feel sorry for the children of these 2 lying, conniving, dysfunctional grifters and especially of their mother who appears to have some type or combination of types of a personality disorder. We're lucky that they have not acted out more than they already have. Just be thankful that, hopefully, no one has suffered actual physical harm from the actions of these kids. Of course, the poor child named Trig will never get to go anywhere a passport is required--you know, as a birth certificate w/ actual birth date required for passport.
- 7 votes
These kids need their asses beaten. Oh but I forget even if a parent wants to take the time and energy to discipline their kids the current laws would land them in prison. Glad my father parent was a sheriff who is the supreme law of their county, able legally to tell even the Feds to go to hell, kicked my ass when I caused trouble and taught me to respect what was not mine. That is the only thing we have seperating us from what we consider the lower animals. Respect for others, whatever our feelings or desires.
- 3 votes
It seems to me Caribou Barbie should spend more time on her children and less time worrying about what bumper sticker is on other people's cars.
- 6 votes
It's not the crime, it's the cover-up. If this is legit, that is the story here. What pressure was put on the locals to keep Palin's kid out of it?
Yes, we can all laugh that, once again, a Palin kid shows up the "family values" crowd for the hypocrites they are, but the "kids will be kids" attitude will. of course, prevail with conservatives and Palin fanatics.
These are, after all, "suburban" kids "partying" in someone's house. So unlike those "urban" kids wilding in Philly with parents who are just collecting welfare and too busy getting stoned to pay attention. (sarcasm)
Time to find out what the pay off was to the local police and media or are people in Wasilla just that afraid of the Palins? I think there is a lot of truth in the latter.
- 4 votes
I find this a little hard to believe... As much as Sarah's kids are on the road with her, I don't see how Willow could even have been in the area on the day in question.
- 2 votes
I don't see how Willow could even have been in the area on the day in question.
I'm not sure what you are basing that on ... but once again, the reason I am putting this out for comment is because the Palins pulled a similar attempt to cover-up the pregnancy of their daughter.
Had it not been for 1 or 2 persistent bloggers, we might not have known about it to this day.
- 5 votes
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