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Obama's Reported Compromise On Contraception Is Failing To Satisfy Conservative Critics | ThinkProgress

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 While the details are still sketchy, early reports indicate that the modification may be similar on the so-called “Hawaii model,” where employers must include contraception in their employee insurance plans, but can invoke a refusal clause to exclude such services. Companies that opt-out of offering contraception coverage, inform their employees of their decision and refer them to a provider of contraception insurance. “Employees can then purchase contraception coverage from their insurer at a cost no higherthan the enrollee’s pro-rata share of the price the employer would have paid had it not exercised the religious exemption.”

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UVA

It's called CHECKMATE! The White House pulls off the most brilliant move yet!

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:16 AM EST
CMlawyer

Only if you believe in compromise, and the right does not. Anything than an utter cave in is unacceptable to them, and then it's a sign of weakness. Bullies. Or they try to be. But I do believe that Pres. Obama is smart enough to always be a step ahead and reasonable people will still belive in being reasonable. Now our only worry is that enough reasonanble people will get out to vote.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:25 PM EST
MaryEllen Galloway

#1.1:Now our only worry is that enough reasonanble people will get out to vote.

We must- no if, ands or buts..!

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST
hard2port

Too late, the RWNJ's are already rolling with their 1st Amendment BS. It's all they have, this week anyway............

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:28 PM EST
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UVA

The righties are now on an island .... ALONE!

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:30 AM EST
greck

specifically why a male clergyman should STFU and there needs to be more female leadership from the church involved:

I'm told it's not quite as expensive to go in and buy contraceptives….

Seriously, Father? You're "told?" Didn't bother to look it up?

The least you could do is ask a nun. I'm sure you've got one or two in your rolodex, no?

I mean, if an actual human being who has not taken a vow before God to exclude herself from the reproductive process isn't available, at least ask someone who could, in theory be involved somehow, maybe.

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:38 AM EST
UVA

But this so-called “contraception rider” modification is already not sitting well with Catholics, who have been the most vocal opponents of the administration’s rule. “The concept…is you don’t have to do this, you just have to refer people to this. That seems to me like saying in your schools, ‘we’re not going to have pornographic websites in our websites, but we’re going to have to have referrals to where the kids can go to find those websites,” Cardinal Donald Wuerl told MSNBC’s Morning Joe just minutes after news of the compromise broke early Friday morning. “I don’t think it makes sense,”

Oh it makes PERFECT sense your excellency!

You've been drawn into a "Sucker's Gambit".

  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:48 AM EST
UVA

One would think that the Catholic Church might be smart enough, but barely, to at this point just shut up.

They will have to explain now to America why they deserve to NOT pay the cost of female employees' health care, but all other employers, including small businesses, should do so.
Good luck with that in these tough economic times!

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:56 AM EST
UVA

Here it is .... a stroke of absolute BRILLIANCE:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/10/422863/contraception-accommodation-insurers-will-be-required-to-offer-contraception-coverage-free-of-charge/

  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST
UVA

BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!

Senior administration officials announced early this morning that President Obama will announce a new “accommodation” for religious liberties in the rule requiring all employers to offer contraception coverage without additional cost sharing. Under the new policy, “all women will still have access to free preventive care, including contraception,” no matter where they work.” However, if a nonprofit religiously affiliated organization like a Catholic college or hospital objects to offering birth control, the insurance company will be required to provide the coverage free of charge and the employer will not pay for it. Sister Carol Keehan, President of the US Catholic Health Association and Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards support the compromise, the administration officials said.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:12 PM EST
gregharris

I agree UVA..it's checkmate. Cultural issues are all that's left for the GOP. Granted, every election year, this becomes the spin...but where's the jobs and recovery projects from the GOP.

The Tea Party GOP won the House in 2010 by mandating "less gov't...more personal freedoms...less regulation by gov't" remember??? Have we seen less or more gov't intrusion proposed by Congress and new red state legislators since 2010??

Let's be real folks...GOP legislations have been removing freedoms..ie. collective bargaining, womens health, education of our youth, water quality, so on and so on...I see a whole lot MORE gov't being legislated...hypocrites.

The GOP is losing the women's vote...the independent vote...and even republican votes with it's approach to conservatism...thier losing this election all by themselves. Only a select few are still listening to the "dog whistle", while most are ready to vote for the lesser, but more responsible of the two evils.

  • 6 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:14 PM EST
gregharris

Good proposal by the POTUS to solve this issue of womens health in the workplace...waiting for the response by the GOP...

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:24 PM EST
UVA

The GOP is losing the women's vote...the independent vote...and even republican votes with it's approach to conservatism...thier losing this election all by themselves.

MY TV is tuned to FOX NEWS right now.

They are in shock! They are tied in knots!

  • 5 votes
#8.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:27 PM EST
Agent 57

the fight is not over the right wants full exemption... hatch has already come out saying anything less if against their principles...

But other officials expressed disappointment. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, called for a full exemption for religious groups.

"This is about religious freedom, and anything short of a full exemption is no compromise. The White House has shown time and time again that nothing will stand in the way of politics, and their actions on this mandate reflect that," he said in a statement. "The backlash surrounding the White House's decision to force religious institutions to act against their beliefs lays that fundamental fact that the President's health law is unconstitutional to its very core."

  • 4 votes
#8.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST
Agent 57

This is about religious freedom, and anything short of a full exemption is no compromise.

typical of the right if it's not everthing I want it's no compromise... lol...

time to squash these imbeciles Pres Obama..

  • 5 votes
#8.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST
UVA

typical of the right if it's not everthing I want it's no compromise... lol...

The more they continue to blow this balloon up, the more Independent voters are gonna walk away from them.

Independents poll EVERY time with THE ECONOMY as their top issue!

  • 3 votes
#8.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST
Agent 57

Independents poll EVERY time with THE ECONOMY as their top issue!

and yet it's the one issue that republicans on the fed or state level refuse to deal with... the republican party has become the party of social issues only..

  • 5 votes
#8.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST
Steve-2081387

If people want birth control, fine, is there some reason they cant pay for it themselves? Why is that everything Obama does boils down to "Ill give it to you and make somebody else pay for it"?

    #8.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:22 PM EST
    nica1829

    This is about insurance coverage. If you put into your health insurance YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.

    • 2 votes
    #8.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST
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    hemphill

    Please don't spam groups. This has nothing to do with alternative energy, marijuana, history....

    • 1 vote
    Reply#9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST
    UVA

    Please don't spam groups. This has nothing to do with alternative energy, marijuana, history....

    What are you writing about? Please explain ...

    • 1 vote
    #9.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST
    hemphill

    You published this to all of the groups listed under 'Published to:' above. It doesn't belong in most of them. When you publish an article to a group that it does not apply to you are spamming the group, and making groups just a little less usable.

    When you publish an article you should only check the groups that the article applies to.

    • 1 vote
    #9.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:41 PM EST
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    Borncorn

    Now Catholics can go back to supporting that paragon of virtue, the only Catholic candidate left, GOP family values candidate, Newt Gingrich. Too funny.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST
    demo scout

    Conservatives are notorious for shallow thinking, stubborn refusal to compromise, and brash and aggressive behavior. They are slow to realize the realities of a situation. In a few days it will dawn on them just how badly they have been beaten politically on this issue and they will suddenly shut up about it.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST
    Viki Babbles Gonia

    This doesn't belong in Newsvine Community. Please take care to post to groups appropriately.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#12 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:19 AM EST
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